Obedience vs. Forging Ahead

Can anyone tell me someone from the Bible who is praised for forging ahead on their own?  Certainly, in general terms we’re told to get on with our daily work and have common sense.  But I want a specific person from the Bible who pre-planned….. I can’t think of one.

What IS praised is obedience.   When you hear the Call, you obey it.  God makes the provision for His plans – you show up.   I was going to say “instant obedience”, and that is the ideal.  But God is amazing, and He puts up with a good bit of, “is that really You, God?” “Are You really sure you want me? Because I suck” from His creations.

So, anyone – got anything?  I’m putting 2 and 2 together over here, and I’d appreciate correction if I’m off base.

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12 thoughts on “Obedience vs. Forging Ahead

  1. Elspeth

    Abigail took the bull by the horns, I’d say. Does she count?

    Of course, I’m a firm believer that transposing ourselves onto the heroes of Bible stories in a one-to-one way is a very precarious move.

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    1. hearthie Post author

      I thought about Abigail – but did she “prepare” or did she “respond”? It wasn’t exactly like she had that donkey loaded for days… or that she knew her hubs would keel over. (I’m not looking at one-to-one, I’m looking for an overall rule, and what I’m seeing isn’t what I get from most teaching these days – so find me an exception to this rule).

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      1. Elspeth

        I think she responded to an imminent threat and acted accordingly, but she didn’t dawdle and decide she would just sit and trust God to work it out.

        I know you’re not looking for one-to-one. I said that to cover my self in the event that my comment was misunderstood to mean something other than what I meant it.

        I think the general rule is that if we know the right things to be doing in a situation then we should be doing that. if we don’t know the right thing to do, then we trust and wait in faith.

      1. seriouslypleasedropit

        What about Moses parting the Red Sea?

        I guess I have a bee in my bonnet because the idea of being plan-less sits very uneasily with me. Of course I appreciate how often our plans go to pieces, and how God is the one in charge. But I think sometimes He steps back and is willing and even prefers to let us take the lead. Candidly I feel it a duty to take initiative.

        This might be a Mormon thing; we have a particular verse of scripture that is ringing in my head when I think about this:

        ” For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward.

        Verily I say, men should be anxiously engaged in a good cause, and do many things of their own free will, and bring to pass much righteousness;

        For the power is in them, wherein they are agents unto themselves. And inasmuch as men do good they shall in nowise lose their reward.

        But he that doeth not anything until he is commanded, and receiveth a commandment with doubtful heart, and keepeth it with slothfulness, the same is damned.”

        I realize that an extra-biblical quotation may not be appreciated. But I think if we are humble and are willing to change our plans, and pursue them in the correct spirit, even our bad plans are accepted.

      2. hearthie Post author

        Moses definitely didn’t have a plan for that. God said, “go here and see what I’ll do” and Moses said, “k”. I don’t disagree that we should generally make some plans, but the plans we make are OUR plans and should be left with cheerful hands if we get the Call. The last verse there I strenuously disagree with – it’s anti-biblical. You can look up too many heroes of the Bible who were praised for finally getting their act together and obeying.

        I’m developing some thoughts with these short posts that I’ll write something longer about after I’m done digesting. God’s working on me – both in RL and for a book I’m working on.

  2. Mike

    King Herod certainly had a plan. His plan was not one God would have praised though so I guess I missed the point?

    Delilah certainly hatched a plan to cut Samson’s hair… nope that was a naughty plan.

    David brought his staff and sling planning to strike Goliath with a rock. Does that count?

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    1. hearthie Post author

      You make a good anti-point – the plans in the Bible tend to be squished by God! 🙂
      I will make more sense after I’m done digesting and when I have time to make the spaghetti in my brain make sense to other humans. Promise.

      (Actually David always had his sling, he went to visit his brothers on the front line ’cause his dad wanted them to have extra food and then he got mad about Goliath and hence the story).

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      1. Mike

        The moral of most Bible stories as I remember from Catechism and Veggie Tales with the kids seems to be “trust God and wing it”. In the days it was written though thinking long term would be hard given daily struggle and hardship

      2. hearthie Post author

        I agree with the first – not sure about the latter. There’s some proverbs and a short parable or two in contrast. I’m trying to learn this lesson and push back against cultural expectations, it’s not especially easy. “the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak”. C’est la vie, I will be made stronger and given greater faith.

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